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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:32 am 
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Blizz favors Horde. Its blatantly obvious. You see Azshara lately? Huge Horde symbol. The Horde quests are all really good and goblins have representation in the world.

Alliance lost Southshore/Hillsbrad completely and Azshara went from a neutral zone to Horde only. Sure we took Southern Barrens but if you do the quests there we actually lose it, same with Andorhal in the WPL. So we are losing battles in quests which is demoralizing. Also the Horde took land in Ashenvale.

Alliance have pretty much lost on every front. Don't even get me started on the Worgen compared to the Goblins. After their initial starting zones goblins have lore and story throughout the whole game and presence there, the worgen completely drop off the face of the planet it seems, just like the Draenei. Not much huge story lore for them in the rest of the game. Blizz messed up with the Draenei by putting in a race and then dropping all support for them and then made the same mistake again with the Worgen. Meanwhile the Goblins are awesome and get a whole zone for them in Azshara and a nice little area in Org.

What do the Worgen get? Oh ya 1 tree that has a ground floor and thats it in Darnassus with some forlorn looking NPCs. Not to mention the faction leader for the Worgen isn't even in Darnassus, he is in Stormwind. The Worgen sorta just get thrown there too. The final quest has them leave the town and they come back and nothing is there and they are sent to Darnassus, no real explanation of what happened at all.

Meanwhile a lvl 20 or so Undead character can actually partake in the destruction of Gilneas and sees a cool little cut scene of them taking it. Worgen whos town it is see nothing and don't even have a proper end to their own story, they just get whisked away to Darnassus.

Tyrande has not had a model update unlike every other Faction leader as well. Plus the Goblin racials are awesome and they give the horde 2 cool new mounts while the Worgen racials are kinda boring and they have no mounts because they have that running wild ability which looks pretty awkward and unnatural and seems tacked on. What happened to the awesome Boars or whatever they had in concept art?

The Devs also show favoritism of the Horde at Blizzcon in their support for them compared to the Alliance. They messed up a major NPC which lead to the rise of the Red Shirt Guy and they said that Thrall will save Azeroth.

The only thing the Alliance has going for them is the political tension in the Horde and that Garrosh may very well tear it apart (of course this can never happen from a gameplay standpoint).

Lets not mention the guild mounts either. Horde get a brand new scorpion model mount and alliance get a reskinned cat/nightsaber.

Just a bad time to be the Alliance. Its not even the loss of land or the losing battles in quests, its a war and someone has to lose, its the other smaller things like with the Worgen and what not that really make me upset.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:23 pm 
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But But, Alliance gets RAMBO
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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:32 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:54 pm 
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you do realize on many occasions they have blatantly come out and said "we like the horde better" right

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:56 pm 
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The Alliance 40% community award is 4 seconds longer than the Horde one! DISCRIMINATION!!!

But yeh, the underdogs are always more popular. I prefer the story of the Horde, so I have no complaints. Except for the whole not playing any more thing.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:08 pm 
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welp, we've encountered a problem with wow.

it was working fine on this computer for several days. all of the sudden (not too long after the cata patch, actually) it started freezing up and crashing completely. it's gotten so bad we can't even play. we did a virus scan, we repaired wow, we uninstalled then reinstalled. it's still not working. i'm waiting for the patch to completely and utterly finish before i try playing again, but i doubt it'll work.

you guys have any ideas why it might be doing this?

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:55 pm 
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you do realize on many occasions they have blatantly come out and said "we like the horde better" right


This is a problem. Its ok for them to like the Horde more but when it starts affecting the amount of time/quality they put into their work it becomes unacceptable.

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But yeh, the underdogs are always more popular. I prefer the story of the Horde, so I have no complaints. Except for the whole not playing any more thing.


The problem is Thrall is gone. He is now a neutral NPC giver just like Tirion, he is no longer apart of or a hero of the Horde. The writers are trying to make the Horde be the underdog however at the same time be an unstoppable war machine. You can't be the underdog who never loses a battle. This is what they are in Cataclysm.


I am not doing this just to QQ, and like I said, I don't mind if the Alliance is losing the war or what not, I just love the Alliance too much to see it get the short end of the stick of this awesome new expansion. Things can at least be equal in terms of quality of what each faction received.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:42 pm 
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Dire Maul and Scholomance got their levels lowered. I'm okay with this.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:52 pm 
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This is a problem. Its ok for them to like the Horde more but when it starts affecting the amount of time/quality they put into their work it becomes unacceptable .


ive been pop flyin' with both sides of the playing field from this expac

lvling my hunter as a durf has still be enjoyable and same goes for my taruen pally
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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Tauren pallies hell yeah 8)

I am greatly pleased with Cataclysm so far.

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Goddamnit alliance.

I make a human mage, end up in Goldshire.

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All of my hate.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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The Speedbarge. I love it. I love it so. Except the lack of repair vendors and mailboxes. That sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:27 pm 
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lyrasen wrote:
welp, we've encountered a problem with wow.

it was working fine on this computer for several days. all of the sudden (not too long after the cata patch, actually) it started freezing up and crashing completely. it's gotten so bad we can't even play. we did a virus scan, we repaired wow, we uninstalled then reinstalled. it's still not working. i'm waiting for the patch to completely and utterly finish before i try playing again, but i doubt it'll work.

you guys have any ideas why it might be doing this?


quoting because i still don't have any answers.
also, it didn't work.
we can't start it up without the entire computer crashing now.

it's probably a virus, but the virus scan came up with nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:20 pm 
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iamthelordhitman wrote:
Leoj wrote:
This is a problem. Its ok for them to like the Horde more but when it starts affecting the amount of time/quality they put into their work it becomes unacceptable .


ive been pop flyin' with both sides of the playing field from this expac

lvling my hunter as a durf has still be enjoyable and same goes for my taruen pally
/shrug


You know that the Alliance received one less new class/race combo than the Horde did?

Also not much has changed for the Alliance questing zones. Most of the zones have the same old quests. Goldshire for example. You go from the new starting zone quests for the humans to Goldshire and bam you are killing Princess and helping that couple elope. Its like it was stuck in a time warp and no one there realized the Cataclysm happened. Same thing with the Forest Song area in Ashenvale. The Horde is now on their doorstep and they are all still building their houses or whatever and nothing has changed with them.

I don't know if you have seen Tirisfal Glades or Silverpine forest lately but they are completely redone and its amazing. So is Azshara. The horde got a lot more effort put into their quests and remakes than the Alliance did.

Not to mention the Worgen just have that tree in Darn while the Goblins have the slums AND Bilgewater Harbor which is awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:53 am 
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Leoj wrote:

You know that the Alliance received one less new class/race combo than the Horde did?


ima go on a limb and say, i really couldnt care less. i didnt like them adding dwarven shamans cause it makes no goddamn sense what so ever but for the sake of balance they had to.

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Also not much has changed for the Alliance questing zones. Most of the zones have the same old quests. Goldshire for example. You go from the new starting zone quests for the humans to Goldshire and bam you are killing Princess and helping that couple elope. Its like it was stuck in a time warp and no one there realized the Cataclysm happened. Same thing with the Forest Song area in Ashenvale. The Horde is now on their doorstep and they are all still building their houses or whatever and nothing has changed with them.


have you been to the hinterlands on the horde side? they removed quests and readded them as the exact same ones, the same applies to some of the barrens as well. some shit wasnt changed much, some was, they already said some zones were going to be minimally changed



Leoj wrote:
I don't know if you have seen Tirisfal Glades or Silverpine forest lately but they are completely redone and its amazing. So is Azshara. The horde got a lot more effort put into their quests and remakes than the Alliance did.

yes i have but you have horatio over in west fall, i think thats pretty fucking cool/hilarious imo

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Not to mention the Worgen just have that tree in Darn while the Goblins have the slums AND Bilgewater Harbor which is awesome.


soooo worgen have a nice tree, whereas goblins live in flith and rummage whilst also having a harbor, i dont see your point. having a a nice diamond compared to someone who has a piece of shit and a diamond isnt saying much.

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