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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Cheering him on and being utterly loyal sure is a weird way of showing it

But whatever floats your boat, I guess


im cheering him on? if i could kill him i would hes fucking NUTS and ill happily do the raid in which we kick his dick in

voljin or thrall back for warchief anyday


also who the hell IS cheering for him(besides his evil cronies like that blackrock assassin orc)? almost every single horde person has been like what the shit garrosh


According to Tides of War, all but a few dissenters

And those dissenters are having their minds quickly changed by Malkorok

Understand that the Garrosh haters in the Horde are an extreme minority compared to the amount that love him and where he's taken the Horde

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:57 pm 
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considering the playerbase i dont think thats true

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:09 pm 
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playerbase =/= Lore, sadly

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Downed Sha of Anger. Got PvP neck, used a coin and got PvP bracers, then turned in the quest item and got 476 boots. Yum yum.

Also guild is starting 10m Mogushan Vaults tonight so here's hoping.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:00 pm 
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The Codex of Xerrath was found for 5.1, as well as references to the Council of the Black Harvest/Six Daggers

GREEN FIRE

This is looking like a great patch to be a warlock, I better start getting mine to the level cap

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:50 am 
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Dr. Glocktor wrote:

According to Tides of War, all but a few dissenters

And those dissenters are having their minds quickly changed by Malkorok

Understand that the Garrosh haters in the Horde are an extreme minority compared to the amount that love him and where he's taken the Horde


If that's true, that would be completely ridiculous. It makes no sense from a lore perspective for Tauren to love going to war. Darkspear trolls are mostly loyal to Vol'Jin, so why would they cheer on Garrosh?

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:10 am 
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Adding on to that, the Forsaken don't care for Garrosh at all, that much was made clear in the Worgen starting area and Silverpine questlines. And the Blood Elves.. Well, they really don't have any reason to follow Garrosh, but they don't have any reason not to either. The Goblins will hump whoever's leg gives them the most cheddar so there's that. The way I see it only Orcs (and even then some Orcs dislike Garrosh) and Goblins (maybe) are supportive of Garrosh's decisions. Maybe the Blood Elves too but Garrosh would have to have bribed them with some pretty powerful drugs magic.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Guess he got tired of afking for 5 years

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:44 am 
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Terraem wrote:
Dr. Glocktor wrote:

According to Tides of War, all but a few dissenters

And those dissenters are having their minds quickly changed by Malkorok

Understand that the Garrosh haters in the Horde are an extreme minority compared to the amount that love him and where he's taken the Horde


If that's true, that would be completely ridiculous. It makes no sense from a lore perspective for Tauren to love going to war. Darkspear trolls are mostly loyal to Vol'Jin, so why would they cheer on Garrosh?


It was the massive, combined Horde army that cheered on Garrosh after he had dropped the mana bomb. Baine was despairing at just how few didn't like what had been done.

And I'm afraid it doesn't matter; in the Shattering, Cairne was disappointed by the number of Tauren that supported Garrosh over him. There's a fair number with a grduge against the Alliance bceause of the Southern Barrens and the mess that happened there.

And yeah, the Darkspear aren't that loyal to Garrosh; that's why he kicked most of them out of Orgrimmar, and come 5.1, the Darkpears were the only race he didn't call on to aid the war effort.

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Adding on to that, the Forsaken don't care for Garrosh at all, that much was made clear in the Worgen starting area and Silverpine questlines. And the Blood Elves.. Well, they really don't have any reason to follow Garrosh, but they don't have any reason not to either. The Goblins will hump whoever's leg gives them the most cheddar so there's that. The way I see it only Orcs (and even then some Orcs dislike Garrosh) and Goblins (maybe) are supportive of Garrosh's decisions. Maybe the Blood Elves too but Garrosh would have to have bribed them with some pretty powerful drugs magic.


The Forsaken are tricky. Some like Garrosh, some don't, but they're all loyal to Sylvanas. Who is using them as a means to prevent herself from dying so she doesn't go to 'hell'. She doesn't like Garrosh squandering them, not so much that she's actually going to war.

The goblins are in it for the profit and the blood elves are absolutely loyal to Garrosh's Horde; Lor'themar swears this in Tides of War. As well as it was the blood elves who gifted the mana bomb to Garrosh.

Finally, the number of orcs who dislike Garrosh is very small compared to the number that do. And because the orcish military is the strongest and most numberous in the Horde, they're able to strong-arm the other races if they're not complying to the will of their warchief.

The Horde has returned to its roots as a group of conquerors. They're not the good guys, nor have they ever been.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:27 pm 
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I'm fine with the Horde not being the good guys, as long as there's nothing that goes against established character/race/morality. And it'd be stupid if the Alliance suddenly were good guys.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Terraem wrote:
I'm fine with the Horde not being the good guys, as long as there's nothing that goes against established character/race/morality. And it'd be stupid if the Alliance suddenly were good guys.


Nothing has. The Orcs are still honorable fighters seeking the best for their people. The Tauren are still the steadfast allies of the Orcs. The Forsaken are still pretty scummish.

Garrosh was just the one who weaponized the simmering resentment felt by the majority of the Horde towards the Alliance.

Plus, I wouldn't say the Alliance is 'good', but its certainly a lighter shade of grey.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:18 am 
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Guild is now 2/8 in Mogushan Vaults. Got to 75% on Garajal second attempt before we ran out of time.

On the plus side, I used my coins and got the amulet from Feng.

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:15 pm 
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did raidfinder and got the neck from feng as well

these fights are a joke ill be glad when i can actually raid normals

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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Well fuck, seems I'm going to be playing this again tomorrow (once I buy the new expansion digitally).

I don't think any game has managed to pull me back in like this after I quit.


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 Post subject: Re: World of Warcraft
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Wait let me send you a Scroll of Resurrection. You can play seven days for free to see how you like the changes.

Also if you do end up liking it again I get a Spectral Gryphon when you buy game time.

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